TIP 'Movie Night' | Fritz Springmeier - 'Mind Control and The Illuminati' (Granada Forum 1998)

'Mind Control and The Illuminati' is a prominent lecture delivered by Fritz Springmeier at the Granada Forum in 1998. The multi-hour presentation serves as a comprehensive visual synthesis of his self-published books on global elite bloodlines and trauma-based psychological conditioning.

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Today, a growing number of Americans are concerned about the Constitution, justice in the courts, the system back on track, just institutions to their proper place. None of these systems will work, however, until America finds out how the Illuminati carries out its program on undetectable total mind control. As long as they remain free to implement this program on individuals in total secrecy, they can act with impunity. So says Fritz Springmeyer, our guest speaker for this evening. And a man who has dedicated his life to exposing the Illuminati and to bringing forth solutions to thwart their power and control. Mr. Springmeyer has written six books, co-authoring three of them with a former member he helped to free from that secret organization. Tonight he'll define who and what the Illuminati is, their bloodlines and rituals, and how they were instrumental in starting many of our religious intelligence organizations, some of which they still control today from behind the scenes. This is sure to be a most interesting program. Now please join me in a nice warm welcome from Mr. Fritz Springmeyer.

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Thank you, Ann. I want to word of appreciation to the Granada Forum, Ralph and Ann and Dennis for their hard work giving me the privilege to be here and speak to this great crowd. I am you know uh uh reaching to the the because you're um as I've gotten out there and talked with various members of the audience, I think a lot of you are very informed. Um although some of you, this is the first time that you've been here to the Granada Forum. I'm in an extremely difficult position as your speaker tonight because I was uh told that I would start speaking at 7:30. And uh in order to give you an organized presentation, I try to tailor a vast amount of information into a short period of time. And so tonight going through a lot of information and I'm going to be freewheeling it. This is not a prepared speech, and I am not a great speaker, but I am trusting that if I can if my heart can connect with your heart, that the truth of what I have to say will uh will make this a good talk. I'm not uh uh Bill Clinton in in my speaking abilities, but the things that I have to share with you are extremely important to you and your children and your children's future. In fact, I wish that we had a whole stadium of people to hear this kind of information. When I uh was coming down here to speak to you, I visited a and she s said that uh she made the comment that the Christian people are so hard to talk to because they're so set in their thinking patterns. Why that's so. And I said, people that go to the these established denominations are handed pre-packaged truths. And and these denominations want them to um be the type of thinking where they will accept pre-packaged truth. Uhing you uh to take responsibility for yourself and to investigate and look below the surface and don't allow people to spoon feed you what um information. But uh one of the reasons why uh it will be difficult to um address some of you is be because of uh uh you've you've been conditioned to accept pre-packaged truce. Um also uh I get a lot of comments from friends when they hear that I'm going to speak. Oh, good luck, the American people are so stupid. Well, that probably doesn't apply to this crowd. But um but I but my response to that was is that the American people aren't stupid. They've had slides built into their thinking. The word slides is a CIA term, it means to build in a way of thinking that dead ends you. And there's a lot of slides that have been built into our thinking, and I will bump into those audience because there are a number of groups out there that um have the appearance of opposing the New World Order, which are uh building in slides into people's thinking. And when I bump into those, at first I think that I have somebody who's uh um on the same wavelength as I, and then I hit one of those slides and I lose them. So if I hit a slide and and it's hard for you to sit in your chair, you want to walk on out of here, put that issue on the up on the shelf and continue listening to me. An example of a slide would be that we need to go to an approved establishment authority for particular uh information. For instance, and and I have this, this is showing the Illuminati control of health care. Each one of you have lived in your body for many years. I've lived in this body for 42 years, and if I go to a doctor, uh my opinion as to what's wrong with this body is very uh carries very little weight. And yet that doctor in five minutes of a cursory glance over my body is in the position to make pronouncements about it. This is the type of slide that I'm talking about. Um, I'm uh trying to think on my feet here how I want to to uh start in with this. Uh some of the people in the audience indicated they're very interested in history, and this is something uh that last night I showed. What we're dealing with over centuries we've had one lie layered in over another lie, just this ring of lies, and so it's uh really difficult for a self to come in and unravel those lies, and now I have like an hour and a half to do this. Um your frame of reference has been built by the world system over many years. Who built your frame of reference? See, this is the problem that I discovered was that when I when I've gone to present information to people, it's not a matter of having a facts, because I have file cabinets full of facts, and I have all kinds of and a lot of um uh personal experiences to validate some of the things that that I uh report. It's not a matter of not having the proof. The problem is one of communication. It's like going to Africa and trying to explain something in America that the people over there have no concept of. There isn't preference for people to hang what I'm I'm giving. For instance, when I came out with a book, The Watchtower and the Masons, in 1990, uh, where I reported that Charles Taze Russell, who started the Watchtower Society, was a Freemason. Um I was told that the book didn't have any significance because the Freemasons were only a group of old men that sit around and play cards. This is the situation that I face. I can tell you things, uh and very frequently I've I've come to audiences and I have given them inside information that I've risked my life to get, that I've gone through hell to get. You know, it's like handing uh somebody in 10 uh million yen note, and they look at a piece of paper and then walk off and leave it. And um so I'm I need to uh I as I go through this, I need to establish some things. And yet, on the other hand, I don't want to just speak to your minds, I also want to speak to your hearts. Because if I don't reach your heart as to the of what's going on, then I'll have accomplished nothing. And I I've realized that over the last eight years of going out in groups is I I because I'm very analytical, I had an easy time reaching people's minds, and it was very easy for me to approach talking to people that way. And to give an example of how important it is to reach people's minds. Uh back in 1982, a friend of mine came to me and he said, Fritz, I know you're a researcher. I need to know about Somalia and what are legitimate groups doing relief over there. Do research it and report back to me. When I started researching Somalia, I read one personal anecdote after another uh of the tragedy of the people's lives over there, and it hit me. I had had knowledge of the situation before I started reach researching it again. It hit that I cried for a day, and so I gave my friend my findings and told him how I had touched me, and then I sat in his church as he reported back to his church, and as I was sitting there in the pew, I saw that what had become heart knowledge to me had translated back into head knowledge, so that there was somebody in in one of the pews mumbling, I'm gonna help them commies. And see, it wasn't communism, it was about people that had gone through years of deprivation and starvation and uh were were dying of starvation, they could care less about the United States or Russia. The one of the actors in Amistad, uh a black actor, when he put on the leg arms and the the collar, it was when it really hit as to what slavery was all about. So I need to impact you at the heart level. You can imagine what it would be like if you were a two-year-old child and you were taken by these big adults strip naked and you were cold, and for a good period of time they ridiculed and and were abusive to you, and you into a cage you down into a cold well. And then you would be le then you are left there in that cold well in the dark for a for several days and um without water and every so often the top of the well is pulled off and you're r uh given some more abusive language and you have uh human excrement and and uh urine dumped down on you. This uh is a standard trauma that is programming. We're going to be discussing the mind control tonight, but I also want to discuss with you who and what is the Illuminati. And I want to give a little bit of insight as to uh how we can see this in in history. Uh the history books are being written by the establishment and they uh they're very selective in what they report. But those of us are history buffs that have that are extremely fascinated with going back and reading primary documents, and that's what I did as a child. While my peers were out getting drunk and partying, I was reading uh primary history documents, but I kept it a secret for years because it would be considered uh very strange if I told anyone how I spent my time. Here's something that's an an uh and that's what I want to to talk about uh uh with you to start with, is that when you go back and you do this research, nitty nitty research, you start coming across anomaly after anomaly. Things don't add up, they don't fit. Person who doesn't have a frame of reference to know what to do with these anomalies just discards them because you don't have any place uh way to file it into your mind. But once you understand what's going on, you'll see evidence around you. For instance, on the mind control. Uh uh I think practically everybody who's now read uh Cisco and and my books on the mind control has now uh um are now in a position to report back to me and say, Fritz, I saw this, this, and this, and this person's under mind control, and look at this. And I uh almost every day I'm getting these kind of uh excited reports back from people as they're beginning to see that this stuff is all around them, and they had been interpreting the events around them in the light of their own. And now that they have improved their frame of reference, now they can take these these clues and they can actually uh make uh the a proper judgment call as to what's going on around them. And many people have have been um very excited to me that I have made sense of their life. They some people have gone through for fifty to understand the woman with or w what happened to their family or or and and the information that I've provided has um um has removed the enigmas about their life and given them a great relief. World War II was considered a great crusade against Nazism, and that's one reason why I like to pick a novel of that time period, because uh uh basically that was a very war, and um and I g uh you know uh we had a clear cut enemy, we had the evils of Hitler and Nazism. This is from the Code of Federal Regulations. On December 13th, 1941, just a few days after Pearl Harbor, FDR uh uh FDR made a presidential decree, which was which is listed in that code, and here it's indexed here general license under section uh 3a of the Trading with the Enemy Act, and it's written out here. What this uh license allows is if the secretary of the treasurer, Morgentha, wanted to, he could give a special license to certain people so that they trade with the enemy. You will find when you go back in in history uh to World War II that uh the Illuminati Kingpins were above World War II. Uh the ro J. D. Rockefeller had his oil and loading oil and gas in Spain, and then that uh oil and gas was shipped into Germany Hitler's armies running. And it is said that if that oil and gas that was coming into Spain uh for Nazi Germany had had not been available to Hitler, the war would have come to an end in nineteen. A lot of you are probably f already familiar that uh the Beers has a monopoly over diamonds. When the United States declared war against Japan, the US government realized that they had an immediate need for over six million carats. Diamonds are used in industry for a variety of purposes, for instance, industrial cutting. They're also used in a lot of things like race scopes. And so the U.S. uh government uh six million carats of diamonds immediately from De Beers. Now, De Beers has artificially diamonds up by making us believe that there's a shortage of diamonds. If people realize that there was actually a glut of diamonds, the the price would be very low. And so De Beers was not very excited. De Beers, by the way, is tied in with the Illuminati and the Rothschilds. Some families are tied in with this, and it's headquartered in London. De Beers was not very excited about being told what to do, especially turning a large quantity of diamonds when they're trying to make people shortage of diamonds. The US government was going to cut off all supplies and they would allow the United Kingdom to fall. And they their threat was all military and and and all foodstuffs and all was as strong a threat as they could make. And remember that De Beers, which is based in London, has a monopoly over diamonds. Now, how did Hitler get all of his millions of carats to run his war machinery? He could get and it was very obvious at the casual observer of the situation that he had to be getting his diamonds from de Beers. British government and the American government never stopped providing Hitler with these diamonds to keep his war machinery going. Another example of how the Illuminati Kingpins are above the wars that they create for us is Aristotle and Nassus. In World War II, uh essentially all of the Greek merchant ships during the course of the war, a lot of them in the Mediterranean, which was a very hot theater. However, although uh approximately 400 Greek merchant ships were all sunk, Onassus, who had a large fleet, um, I don't remember the exact number, over 200 ships. His fleet sailed in every theater of the war. They they traded with all of the nations. They went to Nazi Germany and to the United Kingdom and everywhere else. There was not one of Aristotle Anasses' ships that was ever attacked, not even strafed. And all of his ships came through the war completely unscathed. Now, only collaboration at the highest levels could have allowed Aristotle Anasses' ships to have sailed anywhere with impunity. These are the anomalies, and I could go through war after war and pull out many, many anomalies for you, so that by the time I was done, you would begin to see the thing is rotten in Denmark, and uh you begin to see that these people that create the wars for us are not only profiting, but they're above it. Last night I uh went through and established for the audience what started and how religious con control came about. And I I believe I r I need to go through the because there's a uh a real lack of understanding, even among the Christian people and the patriots, uh about how wide this conspiracy is. See, the problem is is that if we don't understand how big the problem and how wide the problem is, is that we may run from one arm of the octopus to another arm of the octopus. We have to know our enemy. We have to know where where the people that are are trying to do the take away our freedoms are located. And probably familiar uh with Christ and uh Christ uh how how Christ uh was prophesied to set the captives free, and Christ came, one of the things that Christ came to do was to set mankind free of religious tyranny. And the people that crucified him understood that very well. How did religious tyranny come about? Well, last night I went in depth about Nimrod, and I think uh tonight I will skip over that uh going into some of the details. But it's very interesting how uh uh uh religious thought developed and one of the principal concepts that that uh got things started occurred way back there in the Garden of Eden. It's where Satan told that knowledge would save them. That's the concept that knowledge will save you. And that's the basic agnosticism. Well, what they discovered, and a lot of this was developed at the time of Nimrod, what they discovered was is that knowledge is power, so that if I say knowledge, I create an instant power base. You want to come to me to get my hidden. Now, the key here on this diagram not from the other side. And I uh I I was reading in an obscure Gnostic book in an obscure paragraph, and it was the type of boring most people would not wade through, and all of a sudden, in this obscure paragraph, the light went on, and I realized that they had just told me the world is like the apple hitting Newton. I said, That's how they do it. They just told me. What they do is is they say that they have hidden knowledge. Now if I have hidden knowledge and you're coming to me, I can't give you my hidden knowledge, or I just uh I would have just given away my power base. So I have to give it away. So uh the the the second feature of this is that this hidden knowledge is given away incrementally. Now, if you join the Freemasons, they give their life in degrees. That's how they incrementally give it. You go up through the degrees one through, and then you can go to other rites and go three hundred and sixty gr degrees around the circle if you want. Uh if you are a Jehovah's Witness, you are given this hidden knowledge incrementally by their watchtowers and awakes, which come out of a weeks. In fact, to quote the Watchtowers, you must stay in touch with God's. In fact, there's a lot more involved in and researched the Watchtower. I found a lot of very strange things about many of these established religious organizations, and I might just um use the Jehovah's Witnesses as an example. I found out that during the early part of their history for many decades, their leadership believed that they were receiving messages from God and that God lived in Alcyon in the Pleiades. Remember, we have people talking out about aliens? Well, they believed that the Pleiadians were giving them messages, and their second president, Rutherford, said that angels that were coming from the Pleiades bringing these messages were falling fallen angels that were working out their self. Very interesting. Now, the third feature, there's three features to how they set up a Gnostic religion. The third feature is that you can't get the dedication that you can get to an initiate group. So they create one uh religion for the broad masses, and then they'll pull out an initiate group, which will be like a priesthood. So this will be like a laity, and this will be a clergy, and then they'll have a cover ruling body which pretends to rule, and then there'll be the actual string pullers, and those Illuminati. And like with the I went back and identified some of the Illuminati figures that are secretly running the Watchtower Society. And in 1991, I came out with a big book, Be Wise as Serpents, where I went in and I went group by group, denomination by denomination, religious group by religious group, showed how they were created and how they are controlled by scenes. So all of these religious groups are being controlled from behind the scenes, so that if we take this pyramid structure, that they love to build pyramids because intrinsically what's hap happening is the base is supporting the top. There's some intrinsic features to a pyramid. If you picture this pyramid being laid on its side as a piece of pie, uh you you see how all these religions fit together. For instance, we have the Catholic Church here, the Mormon Church, the Jehovah's Witnesses, and other uh groups around here. And so it it's a divide and conquer tactic. These are artificial partitions in here, and they'll keep like the Jehovah's Witness fighting against the Mormon. They never rebel against the sinner. It's the perfect control mechanism. Uh if they to rebel against the sinner, then they got the priesthood that's protecting the sinner, plus the fact that there's the cover ruling body, which um has a has um so that it's hard to identify who are the real strengths behind the scenes. This pattern has been repeated. This is the the pattern that they use, and it's been repeated hundreds of times, and it's there's a lot more about this, but it's important to understand uh the uh the concept uh of mystery religions because Illuminati is the continuation of the ancient mystery religions. And Illuminati have their which uh are identical ancient mystery religions, but they all these other religious groups, and they really don't care what you do as long as they can control you. And uh using the Jehovah's Witnesses as an example again, very few Jehovah's are aware of all of the doctrinal flips their society has made. And when you examine that, you realize that the real crux of the issue is the Watchtower Society wants control over their life, that it's not a doctrinal thing. So here is some examples of this. What the what the about Satan is so true, this the word of God says that Satan masquerades as an angel of light. The Greek word there masquerade means to wear a mask. To reflect for a moment on what an angel is like. When an angel would appear to someone in in the time of like the Old Testament time, they would be brilliant white, they would be so overpowering in their presence that these men would want to fall down and worship them. Even if they were godly men, they would want to fall down and worship them, and then the angels would have to say, Hey, don't worship me. Um this is how Satan comes. He wears a mask. One of the very difficult things I have, if I am going to really tell you about what's going on today, and and really sincerely communicate to you what's happening with the mind control, is to get across to you that nothing is as it seems, and that all of our ideas judging people are obsolete and have been obsolete this entire century. We look on the outside, and um what these people do is is they create mask for themselves. So I like to ask audiences, what do you think popular occupation for Illuminati kingpins is? And I get a variety of answers, but the correct answer is Christian clergyman, because that's the best mask. You need to keep that in mind. What does the word cocaine or esoteric mean? Those three words they mean hidden. Okay, keep that in mind. We've got the mask on. They put on the best front that they can. There I'm sure that there's people that um willingly or unwittingly have masks on. Okay, it would be um uh really difficult for me to believe that in an audience this size that there aren't some people that um uh have an alternative for for being here. I've met a lot of people since I have started trying to expose the Illuminati. They brought a lot of people into my life that were wearing masks to try to to to destroy me. And um the story behind the story is very I've had more than my share of adventures eight years, but the important thing for me is to get out the story. The story behind the story will never get out because it's so difficult to just get out the story. I don't even like to open up the topic of unless I have about a day to talk about it. I am, I'm I'm probably spending 30 minutes to an hour on the subject, and I can't do the subject justice. It's really actually uh in many ways opening that will be counterproductive, and I know we have to start somewhere, but I encourage you, I strongly encourage you to get our books. We uh we have uh three books. Cisco have co-authored three books on the mind control. Don't know how much longer we'll be out here being able to share with people. I don't know how much longer the books will be available. I know that the way that they were published black leather covers will perhaps not happen again because I'm having a lot uh a lot of resistance in trying to get them published that way. Um so I encourage you to while you can, and also to to realize that for people like myself, I I am full-time a warrior against the New World Order and the Illuminati. And thank you. And the way that Cisco and I can support our work requires uh people uh supporting us through buying our literature and also um so forth like that. And as some of you know, of you out there in the audience, you also are working as hard as you can to slow down uh move that the internationalists are doing. There isn't a whole lot of money in fighting the system. Quite to the contrary, uh the roof comes down on your head in many ways. This is just how monotheistic religions are used as fronts for other groups which are used as fronts for the Illuminati. It's fronts behind fronts. And that occurs also in the business world, holding companies which have other companies which are fronts with it's impossible to f figure out who controls certain companies and who pulls the strings. Even some houses around here, as Cisco and I were driving. And for a while she was uh stationed here in California, and as we were driving around earlier today, she was saying, see that house there? It uh belongs to the Rothschilds, but because the ownership's been hidden. It's been obscured. I think I I was just um skip through a stack of things that I was going to discuss and simply give you w uh in a nutshell what I was going to mention. That is, I was going to show the document that uh the Illuminati is a continuation of the mystery religions, and that they're the hardcore mystery religions. The outer symbology of those mystery religions is Freemasonry, and Freemasonry and the Illuminati are like this. And uh so I have spent a lot of time exposing Freemasonry and in uh 1993 I came out with a list of about a hundred and ten Vatican officials who were Freemasons. Here uh are their names and their secret Masonic membership uh numbers and so forth. Uh this uh inside a Catholic church where you see the uh all-seeing eye of the Illuminati. Um there isn't anything in our lives that hasn't been dirtied, okay? And uh yesterday when I I said something like church, I had some people in the audience stand up and leave. This is I'm not trying to pick on any group. Let me just categorically say there isn't anything, there isn't any group which hasn't been dirtied. Anything that's beautiful or clean in this country, these people have infiltrated and made dirty. This is in my Bewise the Serpents book, I went denomination by denomination and listed h high-ranking Freemasons who were in their clergy. This is just part of the Episcopal Church. Um pictures of a few of our presidents who are Freemasons Freemasons than than these just giving you an idea that uh that uh this small uh fraternal organization has extremely uh large influence on Illuminati, uh their ranks, uh they have an anarchy level and a hierarchy level. Again, remember I talked about the mask. Well, the mask is the an the anarchy level are a lot of witchcraft coven groups, and uh we sold out of my Ezekiel 6 3 book, which was on spiritual warfare yesterday. That book I listed uh thousands of rituals in the United States, and I listed all the Illuminati rituals, and I also gave hundreds of different witchcraft covens. A lot of these witchcraft covens appear quite benign. They're you know, nature worshippers or whatever. Uh remember that we're looking when you're looking at the occult, it's hidden knowledge. So you've got this is your anarchy level. And when you are able to create a programmed multiple slave, you can have that particular person operate and function on many different levels. Cisco, for instance, reached uh up at the top of the Illuminati structure, and yet she also functioned down here at the anna. So, what I what I'm trying to get across is just one aspect of what I said before. Everything how to understand obsolete. And it's taking taken me years to tell what uh people refer to as a paradigm shift to really understand the consequences of what this mind control means for our society. Mine is nothing is as it seems. This is one of the mother's castles. Actually, it's not a picture of the castle itself, it's just a gate that leads to the castle. This is a very important, this is the Mother of Darkness's um, sort of like their headquarters. Very important. It's down the border of b um of Belgium and France, near the little Belgium town of Muna. It's very close to um some important Merovingian sites. Happen to have read the trilogy of books Holy Blood, Holy Grail, The Temple and the Lodge, and the Messianic Legacy by a trilogy of uh authors and Leian Pageant are aware of the importance of the Merovingian dynasty. Okay, well that they're one of the Illuminati. And um it's not by accident that this mother of Dark w which um is associated with the Catholic very close to these uh you know, about five miles from this Abbey Du You go back in the Holy Blood, Holy Grail, and you'll find out the significance of that. Trying to give some names and and faces and places to to take something nebulous and bring it down to earth for uh this is the palace of fine arts in San Francisco Presidio, it's been used for Illuminati level rituals. Um the Presidio, which is next door to that palace of fine arts, has a number of um places that have been used for programming. For instance, that tree was used for mind control purposes, uh for point. Um it's very interesting that the Sixth Army, their logo is if you'll look at it, it's a hexagram with an anarchy A in the center, powerful satanic symbology there, and they're headquarter they have been headquartered at the Presidio, and uh Michael Aquino and a number of other members of the Church officers within the Sixth Army, which uh has an intelligence, so they have very high uh clearance. From uh working with the Illuminati, and I have helped bring out some people Illuminati and have uh spent a number of years uh with what could best be described as deprogramming or deliverance, um rescuing these people. Um I have gotten their inside information from when they were in the Illuminati, and and uh there's 13 bloodlines sort of in mockery of uh the biblical bloodlines that God has. And the only one here that's not a top 13 that I threw in was Reynolds. In the uh in my book, The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines, I talk about the crops and the renom are also very powerful within the Illuminati. These what you could call bloodlines or tribes. Now, when I've worked with uh members of the Illuminati, I have yet to come across anybody whose surname, their last name, actually matched the uh bloodlines. You have to understand that these people are masters at deception. Um I I had no comprehension of how deep and uh they have taken the science of deception. Uh it's beyond your imagination as to how skilled these people have become in deception over many centuries. This has been going on centuries. That's why there's a lot of information out there among the Patriots and so forth. Some of the information is just bogus. Some of the information circulated out there about current events is really disinformation. We have to really be discerning. And we just can't, just because somebody says that they're on our side and they're against the New World Order, we just can't automatically accept. Now the telling us, for instance, the intelligence agencies, that uh they're they're lying and they're deceiving for our benefit. The CIA uh is has um a lot of people convinced that they need to use deception for us. That's that National Security Act behind the uh which they hide. If you will study the consequences of lies and deception in a society, you'll be amazed at the detriment that they cause. A lie first is like a rabbit. One lie leads to another lie, which leads to another, and then to cover that, several more lies. So lies breed like r rabbits, they don't stay single. The next thing that happens is with lies is understand that the foundation of society is communication and trust. If you're doing business with somebody, you have trust. Human relationships and the rest of these things that are foundations to a society, they're all built on trust. So your mind automatically starts suspecting uh other uh negative things about them. So by all these lies within society, CIA and National Security Agency are really doing is spreading a cancer that's causing our society everybody becomes mistrustful of each other. Now I'm gonna put some Illuminati. I'm gonna go through uh thirteen families real quickly with uh pictures of um members of the family within these bloodlines, but bear in mind that there the people that are within the Illuminati have their and their lineages hidden. Astors. Here's the clive denistic. Those of you who are familiar with the road scholars, uh uh the road scholars used the clive denies. It was uh the Astors were very involved in that, and remember that uh President Bill Clinton was given a road scholar. So was um the uh head of the Watchtower Society and one of their governing board members were invited to be road scholars. Um this is the DuPonts and uh the DuPont military industrial establishment. Every time we have a war, they make incredible amounts. Uh through in some of our wars, they've almost had monopoly over gunpowder. They also have uh a lot of the patents on a lot of important chemicals. There's not a single day go by that you don't use DuPont products. Freeman family. This is a picture of um one of the graduating classes of the Order of Skull and Bones, and there's a Freeman within this class. Um I mentioned last night that George Bush was in Skull and Bones, and I uh upset some people. This is Gay Lord Freeman, and he's the head of the Priory of Zion with the Merovingian dynasty, um the Freeman Illuminati family. And yes, there is a Chinese family within the Illuminati, the Li family, they're very proud, long occult history. And the Kennedys. A little longer, okay. A little longer. It notice that uh JFK's there at the Great Pyramid. One of the things I notice uh is a lot of these people seem to like to make this to the Great Pyramid. Uh Charles T. Russell started the Watchtower Society, made his pilgrimage and on and on. Their sister married into British royalty. Um involved in this. Brian Kennedy, who was Brian Boro, an old king. His seed has gone into a lot of uh families, royal families in Europe. He was the first Kennedy Jr., who was a member of the Church of Satan. He was a member of the late Anton LeVay, and one of uh many programmers, mind control programmers, and James Van Mansfield, who uh um sexually serviced JFK, was also one of uh the slaves that was uh uh handled by Anton Levee. And I probably already are aware that Marilyn Monroe was a uh a program multiple sexual slave. And uh here I believe is in her personality as she watches uh okay. I'm gonna quickly go on to the next family of that one. This man is Guy to Rothschild, one of the most powerful men in the world, a mind control programmer, his son David. Uh this man's connects in with the uh he's uh connects in the Antichrist. They have uh Antichrist in waiting, and he's a combination of several lineages. This is one of their palaces. This is a later picture of Guy to Rothschild. Now, in the inauguration of Bill Clinton, I caught him doing this sign like this and with his left hand. And those of you who are familiar with know that this is the sign of Satan, but that's just um a front meaning. The important meaning of going like this is that it's a hand signal that hypnotically inducts mind-controlled slaves. So he was doing hand signals while he was giving his talk. Charles Tays Russell, a star of Watchtower Society, is buried underneath a pyramid. Uh Joseph Smith Jr., who started Mormonism, he was tied in with the Merovingian lineage and the tribe of Dan. These are some of his magical items, like his serpent cane and his of his other magical items that he had to practice magic. Okay. And his successor. Now remember, I talked about anomalies in history. All of the leaders of the RLDS Church, that's the Latter-day Saints, and the Latter-day Saints, which are headquartered in Salt Lake City, both groups, all their leaders, their prophets, have come from the same lineage. And here's Brigham Young with his Masonic pen. And I discovered a scot a very important Scottish connection to the Illuminati. Uh all your Scottish clans are represented within the Illuminati. A very strong connection there. And there's um some important uh reasons why it goes back to the tribe of Dan and Egypt and a lot of other things. But uh there's a very strong Scottish you've you've uh read books on conspiracy. You you I I haven't seen any uh anybody out there that's caught on to the Scottish connection. I've fingered a number of other groups, but there's a very important connection to all of this. Uh the Illuminati rule things uh quietly from behind the scenes. They have occult area boards in each area. Uh occult area boards uh have representatives from organizations that uh meet and like committees coordinate activities. Uh an example of what an occult do is they might say, We need more people in this group and less in that this cult, so they will uh they will set things up so that one cult diminishes and another cult increases, so they coordinate activities. And when they wanted to create federal regions for United States, they just copied it from the Illuminati's occult. There is a a system to how they control the United States. This was you know, I I could talk on this for quite a while. Um, I will go right past it, just letting you know that that there is a method to how they do things, how they control. And um when they have an objective, they will break that objective down into different components, and then they will they will uh implement giving different organizations that they can manipulate and control uh items to do to put something together. This is um done in such a sophisticated way I talked about deception that unless you know what's going on and you can put a lot of pieces together, you don't pressure. But they've done this for um a lot of different objectives. And for instance, within New Age teaching groups and teaching institutions, they've uh used the spin principle, polycentric, integrated network, so that you have what looks like a grassroots skillfully controlled from behind the scenes. This is one of the areas that mind-controlled slaves are used in extensively, um, running messages and setting up groups and on and on. Segmented polymer network and they control food and grains. Of course, you know the um government has uh set up a weather modification board by a public law, a number and yet uh here they they did this comic scene of uh having Patriots go to Washington to be interviewed by Congress, and Congress is asking them questions about there's weather modification going on. And here the government itself has had uh a weather modification board carrying this out, implementing it for a long time. Uh Zebanuk Brzezinski, who's Illuminati in his book here, he talks about how uh viruses and bacteria and um weather modification can be uh used as warfare. Well, believe the common people are have warfare being carried out on us, and sure enough, they're using those. The original stockholders of reserve, as most of you know, Federal Reserve is not part of the it's a private fractional banking institution that we pay for the privilege of using there. And you look at the original stockholders, these guys are all Illuminati kingpins, you know, they're the families that I expose. The Illuminati, some uh some of the families of the Illuminati are in free P2 Freemasonry and the Mafia and the Triads and the Mishbuka. So there's an or these uh organized membership of the Illuminati, and then of course this whole slimy mess coordinates their activities. All of these uh underworld people are have a lot of different connections with uh each other. Just a real quick how uh Christian religion build. Now we're going to get right into the I've got forty-five minutes left to uh open up a Pandora's box to you. If you were in Vietnam and we looked at the uh your time there as a and if at a particular point in time you were out in the field and a rocket came in your best friends to smoke that's lying all around, it's very possible that your mind, in order to protect itself, would build amnesia walls around that event. In fact, they have a real nice name for it, post-traumatic stress syndrome. Mind is incredible. As I've gone in and and researched and studied and tried to factor all the ways that they carry out this mind control, this total mind individuals I've I've come to appreciate one is is that the human mind is absolutely incredible in what it's able to do, and uh is very similar to a computer in that it can isolate just like uh when you um um want to reboot your computer, you you shut it off and you reboot it. The memory that you're using to reboot that computer with is memory that's been isolated that you can't touch. Important things in being able to make a functional computer was to be able to isolate memory like that. Well, the uh Illuminati bloodlines learned way back in ancient times when uh in the mystery religions that they could do the exact same thing, that they could isolate memory within the human mind. And they do it uh just as that example with the soldier, they use trauma, but they'd like to use the trauma before a child's mind has fully developed. When you're born, you the different aspects of your mind are beginning to learn how to make themselves together, your ego is beginning to develop, so before the mind has solid. A lot of these things, the Illuminati begin the trauma process. The trauma process begins generally about the age of 18 months, and they traumatize the child as severely as they can. And the programmers try to outdo themselves in sadism. Well, bear in mind that the worse the trauma, the better the amnesia walls. They will go in and they will split the child's mind into thousands of pieces. Now, this is just as if I was to take a mirror and throw it against the ground and shatter it into a thousand. I'd have a mess, wouldn't I? That's what they do with these people's minds. They make it into a mess. Uh Marilyn Monroe could barely function. You know, it was very difficult for her to when when they were um making movies with her them to get her to even function. And she was seeing our programmer every day. Um, so they make a terrible mess of these people's minds, but they mess of their mind by the snot out of them, uh then they and build something of use out of it. So they beg they are they know how to identify each of those fragments of the mind. It's like a uh a floppy disk that has doesn't have anything written on it, and they will go in and they will program each one of those little parts of the mind, and they can make that part into whatever they want it to be. Now perhaps they want to make that in that part of the mind into another personality. So there you will see the creation of multiple personality disorder. Um Cisco, who I brought out, the Illuminati, had 30,000 alter personalities. Those were standard uh personalities within her mind. Imagine the amount of trauma that it takes to split the mind that many times. A lady has undergone as we were driving today, drove by some of the places where she had been used, she pulled up memories, and um she has a real difficult time crying, but she she started remembering a number of the traumas, and it was very hard for her. Um like I say, the better the trauma, or not the better the the more severe the trauma, the better the amnesia walls. So when I say trauma, these traumas are uh are inconceivable. They're so horrendous that they are are bad enough that the mind splits and blocks them out. Bad they are. And this is what's happening all across our country. I figured up from eight different ways how many people had been subjected to this mind control, and I came up, surprisingly, using eight different uh methods or sources with the figure two million. But Cisco tells conservatives, having been in the Illuminati, she believes that there are 10 million Americans who have been programmed with this based total mind control. Now, what is the purpose behind this? It's to control society at all levels. Okay? There are program multiples in the gutter, and there are program multiples in our governor's mansions, and there are program multiples when you go to see the doctor. They're assaulted throughout society. That way, uh, with the structure that they have built in over the centuries, we have a very structured society. If you will think about uh how the American Indians lived, and contrast the way the American Indians lived with the white men that came from Europe, you'll begin to get a picture of how structured our society is. That structuring has come down to us from ancient Babylon. And um, one of the things that I like to do when I have a couple hours is to go in and show people historically how this foundation of structuring has been passed on down through the centuries. One of the items, and I can't go through there's there's probably fifty different uh items that would be uh important to talk to you about in the structuring process of society, but just one of them is interest taking. Now, a lot of Christians pride themselves following the Bible, but if you uh in 1979 I came out with a book exposing that um is unbiblical, that both the Old Testament and the New Testament forbid interest taking. That goes way back to bankers in ancient Mesopotamia in ancient Babylon. And of course, the scriptures, the word of God to our present-day system is Babylon the Great. It's because very few people have taken the time to ask themselves the question, why are we doing what we're doing? Where did this come from? We're a very structured society. In creating a mind wave, one of the key words in understanding how their mind works is structure. Everything becomes a mind. Now, when the child is born, he has diff his mind has different aspects that are working and beginning to work as a team. The different aspects of the brain and the mind are they beginning to learn how to work together. But this is in a sense stopped and not allowed to develop naturally, and um the development is interrupted so that the Illuminati can divide all of these different functions from each other and control each one of them. When I say that this mind control is total mind control, it's absolutely everything of a person. He called and he had been uh subjected to mind control. And he had been looking for Cisco and I for six months and finally found us, sold his con in New York for treatment for his mind control. And I thought his letter that he wrote when he left last Sunday was very nice, and uh would like to read it. He says, My name is Steve Kurzweil. I'm a medical doctor who was exposed to telepathic thought intrusion. That's how he perceived it. From September 1997 through February 23rd, 1997, I was left dysfunctional until I consulted Sisko Wheeler, co-authors of three pioneering works on my skill in mind decontrol techniques got me back on my feet. Their complaint and dedication were remarkable. Sisko and Fritz are to be commended for their faith and inspiration by God in the service of their fellow man. So they have split the mind into as the programmer begins to work. And this will be um uh sheets like this will be put on a ring gray or black binder or uh put on a laptop computer, and this gives the access codes for different alter personalities within the the person's and each of these uh boxes represent personality. That personality may be programmed to be an assassin, may be programmed to be a sexual slave, maybe programmed to do a particular Illuminati ritual. Um you can see that when they create a mind-controlled slave, they will have many, many functions and many, many altars. One of the big that they have managed to perpetrate on the therapeutic community is that these program multiples or these multiple personalities have like maybe five or six. That's only the front, that's only the mask. And of course, they're out there working, they spend maybe twenty years at five or six front altars, and they never realize that there are thousands of other disassociated mind. It's a very sk skillfully. In fact, a lot of you probably feel like go to work, let's identify these mind controlled slaves and let's deprogram them. It's not that simple. Um, they have had many of the greatest minds of this century on how to develop this mind control. Mind control incorporates every method of controlling a person that's ever been discovered. You know, just as uh an apple pie is not an apple, likewise, this mind control is just not it's just not hypnosis, and television is very what they can do with television is minor compared to this. This is at least a thousand times more intense than anything that could be done with this totally controls a person, and it uses an incredible number of different overlapping. There are twelve sciences. When I started to describe, I wanted to write to the the American people on, I had about a hundred and fifty files things that were being done in the mind control. And there's no way that I can I can talk about a hundred and methodologies like hypnosis and this and that. And so I began thinking, just what are we looking at here? And I realized that broke down to twelve sciences, and everything that I have discovered before and since that that I came up with those twelve sciences has always fit within those twelve sciences. So you got twelve sciences with many, many different uh methodologies within each of those sciences on that are interwoven together. That is why when you somebody who uh is like CIA and they tell you, well, we investigated that method of controlling people, that's why you explain to you, you can know that it's uh that it's a lie. If you take this methodology, which only works in percent of the cases, and this which works in 70%, and this which works in 50%, if you take all these many, many and combine them into a sophisticated group package, what you do is is you end up locking the person in. And the victims of this mind control do not under mind control. It's totally undetectable and it's totally undetectable even to the victim. That is the danger of the mind control, is that it's so hidden and it's so deceptive. And if you took a mind controlled slave who was being used by and you interrogated them, they would pass interrogation, they would pass polygraph tests. The mind control is extremely sophisticated, and to try to break it down is not easy. There's a lot of people out there with pat answers who understand they haven't invested billions of dollars in how to create mind controlled slaves to have some somebody simply unravel it very easily. They have built backup programs and backup programs come to understand how much work they do for kill. You'll just seeing how hard that they make it impossible to break down the mind control will convince you these people are absolutely insane. Um it's backup controls after backup, backup, backup. I I I have people that I know under mind control that are programmed multiples, and because of and other reasons, I have not even discussed the issue with them. The thing of it is is that uh someone who's under mind control, if they s if their mind seriously entertains the truth of their situation, they are programmed to commit suicide. So that we're not something that's that's easy to play with. It's not something we're dealing uh not only is this are are we dealing hardball with the Illuminati, but with their mind control, we're dealing with something that's very uh touchy and sophisticated. It's like you've heard of computer hackers. They go in and they type in and they and they try to find the code to break into a computer. Well, because the human mind and body is so incredible from a mind-controlled slave, imagine these mind-controlled slaves are the sophistication of the such that if you go into the room where the computer's located and you're not an authorized user, the computer can self-explode. So we're dealing with some very complex issues here. As they start the uh process, they like to use uh structures that make the mind of the victim feel helpless. These are type structures that never have an ending. It's sort of like if you're a computer programmer, you may be familiar with what are called do loops. There are loops in the computer programming that can be cycling. The programming is set in so that they cycle and uh it seems like there's no beginning and no end. Structures like this leave the victim uh hopeless. As the programmers begin working with the young child, they will reduce the child to um to where the child is pliable. This is this uh this is a photo of a a young boy who has reached the compliance date that the members are looking for. And um you you'll see that the eyes are glossy, the hands are classified, and uh he's ready to uh submit to what they call puppet programming. They have an enormous number of techniques that they have refined over the years. Uh dehumanization is one of them. The front of the mind, which is the personality that will hold the body day in and day out, will realize. But the deeper parts of the mind, the deeper disassociated parts, the di the other alter personalities, will uh be dehumanized. And one of the standard tricks that they use is to remove their hearts and replace their hearts with a heart of stone. Ministers out there that think that they're going to go in and they're going to talk to somebody and say, give your heart. And these parts don't even have a heart. They don't believe that they have a heart. They don't have a heart to give to Jesus. See, I'm I'm beginning to give you just a little inkling, just cracking the door a little bit to show you how complex and how many the programmers have put in to take down their programming and bring these people to health. In fact, um to tell you a little anecdote myself on on this particular issue, one of Cisco's altars uh had this type of programming. And I thought we'll uh let the 3D world of reality expose this lie. I got one of these you you put the cuff around the arm and it gives you your pulse. And I'll put this band around her arm and I'll turn this on and I'll get a pulse and a heartbeat, and I'll prove to her that you indeed have a heart. Well, I did this, and the machine didn't read anything. She had been this particular part had been programmed to trance out whenever this would be done. So she tranced and the machine didn't get a reading. So she turned to me and she said, See, I told you I don't have a heart. There's the proof. As easy as you think to break down the programming. And uh I said, Well, let's try it again. I think that you're trancing out, trying to go deep into trance. The second time she go into trance and we got a very faint reading. Once you realized what was happening, the third time that we did it, we actually got a fairly good reading. But it's easy as you think to break down the programming lies. There's one lie over another. That's quite a layer of very similar to what's being done here in general. In fact, I found a lot of parallels programming in this trauma-based total mind control is really the cosm of what's done uh to the world in general uh as the macrocosm. For Satan uses people to program us a lie. And I'm telling you this to to alert you in your own personal life to the pitfalls that you may encounter. Trauma in your life, I want you to next time ask yourself, what is the lie that's going to be attached to this trauma? Okay. First, a trauma is applied. Second, a lie is offered, which when accepted alleviates or improves the pain of the trauma. And third, systems of lies are built to trap kinds of the lies we believe in. Then I give an example here that you can read while I another example. We're in India in 400 BC. And we're traumatized, then the lie that is demonically introduced to us, because this is all demonology, the lie that is presented to us is that if we worship this lingam or we this particular ritual or something, it's going to take care of, it's going to lead to trauma. So we do that. Then that becomes a cultural uh thing where society is locked into doing that ritual and the lie then is codified. So then your whole culture is locked into the lie. When when a pragmatized in various ways, the mind will naturally protect itself. And the programmers are very well aware of what the effects of certain are, and they take advantage of the mind's natural ability to understand that. What we are allowed to understand about how the mind functions is just the crumbs of what they understand. I have been absolutely amazed at their level of understanding of how the mind works. And they have kept a lot of this from us so that they're in a better position to manipulate us and not only us, but also their mind control victim. So if a little child experiences betrayal from their parents, conscious mind is going to protect itself. It's going to go into denial and it's going to learn A, not to trust anyone, including itself, and B, since trust is the base of communication, they also learn not to be in touch with the outside world. Again, isolation from the outside world is a very pulling someone. They could make it far more fine-tuned and far more. The reason why the concentration camps and the concentration camp experiments were that they were doing it for purposes of mind control. Some of you are probably the uh the man Joseph. Joseph Mengla, for instance, uh between the year of 1943 and 1944, experimented on 3,000 twins. What's the advantage of having twins to experiment? Well, you have a control group. You know, if you've ever done science experiments, you can you know the value of having two, you you can realize the value of having twins which have identical material. These sadistic that were perpetrated on people were done for purposes of um trauma-based mind control. It's a grand master in the Illuminati. In January 1945, when it was clear that Germany was going to fall, or I should say the Illuminati, transferred Joseph Mengele from Nazi Germany and brought him over here to our country to uh apply what he had learned in the concentration camps in terms of torturing people. Joseph Mengla um been Sisko Wheeler's instructor and Sisko got to work with Joseph Mengla as a programmer after after her father and Joseph Mengla perpetrated mind control on her. That has been very because in working with uh like Cisco, uh who was a programmer, who actually understands the programming that uh no I haven't seen anybody else even come close to, it's really helped my learning curve. So much of this is secret. There's another trauma, role confusion, a good and bad to a child. How is the subconscious mind going to protect itself? I must be bad, it was my fault. I'll preserve self-respect. Since I didn't resist, I am at fault. An image of the abuser, I can continue to love him because I was at fault. What a thrill to be abused. I must have wanted this for being to learn to have a comfort zone of self-blame, to become a caretaker, which sets the victim up for more self-blame when things go wrong, and see fantasize to stop the pain. And with each traumas, then there will be visible clues that the person shows. For instance, they'll want to they'll sabotage self-achievement and acts of and they'll isolate themselves. Now I told you that the mind control is essentially undetectable. But once you start understanding the small clues, here's some small visible clues. You put these small visible clues together with four of other small visible clues. Once you get to the level of understanding like, we can spot some people who are programmed multiples very quickly. The doctor who came to us two weeks ago, who I read, had no idea that he was a program multiple, read any of our literature. He didn't know anything about all he had done was as he had been told that we could help him, and he was at the end of his rope after looking for hope in all the wrong places. The parts are dehumanized during her uh the period of her life under programming, but was going through therapy, as part of her therapy did artwork as to how she was seeing things. This is how um some of her alters perceived how they looked. They saw themselves as cats uh when you start becoming aware of their little code words and the way they the way the programming you'll start seeing um some of these even right on television, I mean it'll be right what they're doing and it will it'll just really blow you away that a lot of this is being done right in front of people's faces and uh they don't know what to look for, so it goes right by them. Walt Disney movies have been used extensively for programming. A lot of them were created for programming purposes. Here's an example of how a one frames in Walt Disney movie. Uh let's say you're going to program and alter to believe that it's a doorknob, well then it it very well might have this scene along with a lot of uh other programming techniques along with it, such as drugs, hypnosis, uh deceit, and and a lot of other, like I say, it's a group pattern. By the time the the that part of the mind has been programmed and gone through behavior modification, it has come to the point where it believes that it's a doorknob. This is what the programming looked like. You got programming layered in, uh layered upon layer of programming. That's what it looks like in the mind as the mind starts unraveling. These are this is Cisco, this is artwork, and here's some more. Um this again shows some more of the layering of the programming. And uh we put together some of her collages in a out-of-print. Um and you know, a picture is worth a thousand words. Uh some students um um have uh purchased that book uh over the years and have uh just been amazed at how helpful it was to them because like I say, a picture is worth a thousand words, and there's so much in her artwork shows the hidden aspects of how their programming is done. The ramifications of this mind control are absolutely mind-boggling. Uh nothing is as it's uh, and I'll leave you one one disconcerting thought is that um as I've been out here in the last eight years trying to expose the Illuminati, I have uh learned that the majority of people that are out here also doing at least getting up and speaking before crowds that are uh pretending to exposing the New World Order are actually the infiltration within uh the churches is is mind-boggling. The infiltration within the patriot movement is mind-boggling, the infiltration within the militias is mind-boggling. And um, you know, if we were going to play a basketball game, would you go in and play a basketball game with your ears shut, your ears and your eyes closed, and not being able to see your opponent? And yet those of us that are trying to save this country and save society and save civilization and human race, a lot of us have gone in with without knowing the type of things that I've been doing. And we've been trying to fight blindfolded, and uh we keep getting blindsided. This is one of the reasons why we keep getting blindsided, is because um there's a lot of a lot of people out there that um are double agents. It's controlled opposition. If they can can can control their own opposition, then they know how hard the punch is going to come. That's why it's quite a privilege for me to be here, because um uh it's been difficult to uh I began exposing the mind control in 1980, and how many Americans are aware of? Not very many. So in uh seven years I've made uh only in uh informing the American people. But the flip side of this is that there's a lot of hope. You if you strike a match in a dark room, that looks a whole big room, doesn't it? It's amazing how the truth dispels uh lies. And one of the bases of the programming is fear. They love to build fear into people, and there's a reason why, and I don't have time to go into all of the ramifications, all the consequences of us be uh being fearful. But fear is important for them to control us. Um, for instance, on the issue of national security, we're afraid that nation is going to be conquered by the communists, so therefore we're willing to give away all of our freedoms for them to save us. They create the problem and then create the solution and move us in the direction that they want us to. So it's very important that we we um learn how they're using fear, and again, like I say, I don't have time to go into that, but um I better get on. I'm cutting short a lot of important things that I would like to communicate to you, and that's sad, but um that's the the time limitations that I have. I want to uh I want to tell you real quickly, those of you in the back who have have gone to the back, have noticed this microwater video tape. There's a whole number of things that we can do to step out of the corner that they have painted us into. Fear, I like to describe fear as false expectations about reality. Believe uh that we have to go to them for energy. They have made us believe that we have to go to health care. They have suppressed a lot of information. There's a lot of information that I've learned over the years virtually turn this planet into a power information. Is there, the ability to turn this planet into there, the ability to give us long, prosperous, happy? They don't want this. Um I have these videos back there. This is a very important. Um they're already using uh this in Japan, and you may wonder well why if they've used it in Japan for 10 years, why hasn't it gotten in here? And uh it's because a lot of this information is suppressed. I have border blanks, I have a lot of I have other information stuff on it. Um I'm s it it's saddens me that I can't tell you more about it. Can at least just touch on it. Um also uh there's been a lot of research going on perpetual motion, uh cold fusion, and other energy sources. So uh that those of us that uh are looking at I'm just I'm just making you aware that there are a lot of um powerful answers out there that we can learn that show you that um they don't have the hold over us that they like to think. Once you expose what's really going on, to some degree they're a paper dragon. They're very fierce. Um they appear very fierce, and they are very fierce. These are very powerful people and they're very uh ugly people in terms of of how their hearts are hardened. And yeah, I I want you to uh that there are answers, and um and uh the good Lord in the Word of God has shown us that he allowed evil to come in at a particular point in time in history, going to bring an end to evil at a particular point in history. And the life of Christ, who was a good man who was tortured and uh went before a rigged court like so many of the rest of us have done, that uh even though they did all these ugly things to him, that his life that God can take anything evil and turn it towards good. Soints in history where evil is allowed, it's still not out of control. I don't want you walking away from here in fear. Just one of the ramifications of the mind control. I I got this out of the uh news. You'll see here that the former Soviet Union uh has the second largest number of immigrants coming to the United States, and then Red China third, and then if they had included uh on this chart, it would have been right up there to the top two. Incredible number of people coming in from these communist or former communist countries, Red China is still communist. These are countries that do programming. How many Spetsnez agents do among us? Our own leadership selecting us, and if they wanted to, they could even and allow this uh the the evil that they have allowed into our country to wreck us without even using their their American mind controlled slaves. Oh, Vietnam's right up there too. Uh and um there's a whole there's there's so much that that this mind it touches every aspect of our lives. I might just uh uh uh I haven't uh given this uh detail out before, but uh um those POWs that were left in Vietnam uh that came back, uh you know, that were left in North Vietnam. Uh just be aware that the communists are very sophisticated in mind control and in and putting in subconscious mind control programs. Um so they had an ulterior reason for letting uh some of these POWs back into the United States and uh don't count protecting our POWs if you know um how government's going to protect those people that trust it. This is uh the last thing I'm going to show tonight before I open it up for questions. The um the type of things that I could discuss are so mind-boggling. When you establish one uh piece of the puzzle and you go on to the next piece of the puzzle, and then you establish the piece of the puzzle. Uh we have people that are walking around reptilian eyes. You look at the eyes in these photographs, people see that they are reptilian. And uh the what we have at stake, one of the reasons why I'm I'm determined to uh stand up against what these people are doing is the very existence of the human race as we know it is hanging in the balance. There is nothing that's sacred to these people. And um including um the human race. And that's one reason we can know excuse me, that above the Illuminati are intelligences that are not and uh the and they're not interested in the human race. They're interested in robbing and destroying and enslaving the human race. Um with that with that, I I'll open it up for questions.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:31

That was certainly a fascinating presentation. You know, we have had some of these um personalities, control personalities here at the forum. We had Kathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips. Do you happen to know them?

SPEAKER_07 1:49:46

The question was, uh, do I know Kathy and Mark? Yes, I've known them for a number of years. And uh we have we've uh had the opportunity to uh um meet each other several times and and dis and d discuss things back and forth.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:09

In support of what um Fritz was saying, on May 14th we're gonna have a program here which will be about weather modification. We had a woman, Paula Randall Smith, sold her house to make this incredible production and they literally go to the site and visit the site in Alaska where they have this and she interviews people that have worked there and people from the government and people that are very knowledgeable have done research on it. So like I said, you might want to tune in to the May 14th program. Now we're gonna start with questioning. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:46

Any questions just come over here and line up yeah yeah Fritz um I I've uh I just recently got a book up on uh subjust through ads and through backgrounds with they embed messages such as like you know you would put pornographic messages such as sex and etc etc but uh the television has to actually mind control tool.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:15

For example the uh the uh uh Super Bowl Sunday all all the commercials they have to have subliminal messages in that basically trying to control us and you think there's a a lot of concern about subliminals uh that concern is uh uh really uh i i i if the proper um a proper balanced understanding of what's going on and what subliminals can do subliminals is not that great of a threat and very minor in comparison to this uh total undetectable trauma-based mind control um but I would say this that uh to um uh communicate mind without the conscious mind realizing it and there are a lot of things that are done over television that uh hit the subconscious mind and there are a lot of signals and so forth that are put over the television that are directed towards these mind-controlled slaves out there and they're in fact I've watched in some programs where they have um triggers or um codes that are meant for a broad spectrum of slaves. Uh for instance um Princess Diana's death was one of those events where they were able to um communicate to a vast number of slaves and and this relates to the end times s uh plans that they have they have big plans uh in um that have been being that are that are very intricate that require a lot of different um people and components to bring about so what you're saying basically that's relatively lightweight the ads and yes once again in support of what Fritz is saying we're going to have David Icke here May 7th and he's talking about the quote death of Princess Diana the murder of Princess Diana so he calls it so we have to stay tuned.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:37

Uh currently in Paris for economic cooperation and development are trade representatives of twenty nine and nations working on the final draft of the multilateral agreement on it's scheduled to be voted upon by the U.S. Senate next year in May and how will the plans of the Illuminati if our senators vote it into power?

SPEAKER_07 1:54:06

Uh it's it's uh definitely part of their plan and uh one of the key things about the way things are taking place is that they're all to occur naturally people that sat in on Illuminati meetings as to where when they gave uh they told their members as to what was going to happen they repeatedly the keyword was natural so it's like we look at GAT things that you're talking about and it looks like the world the nations of the world are getting together and doing this but in actuality it's all they're following a script.

SPEAKER_13 1:54:48

Hi Fris and Doug Millar good to see you again buddy three years ago we remember when I was referred to you and you spoke in the San Francisco Bay Area on Memorial Day weekend and uh remember we talked about you you mentioned tonight about the fact that not everybody that uh is going around exposing mind control is on our side.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:08

And um along that line remember three years ago we talked about Mark Phillips and Kathy Bryan and I bit my tongue at that time because for five years this month I've been holding back and release releasing information about the fact that he uses her for mind control and bait to get other monarch victims to surf. I went public with that in Atlanta with Dave Ickey there, Ted Gunderson, Bryce Taylor, a bunch of people last October second in a three-day national conference.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:36

Uh I know that uh a lot of people Mark Phillips doing because you know he's monarch and CI my control and things like that, but have you ever gone across anything to indicate that he is using her as a bait because you see he's discredited every single victim he's deprogrammed except for her in the last well I'm very familiar with uh well I'm I'm familiar with uh some of the ins and outs of what's been going on with Mark Phillips and people that he's come in contact with and and so forth. And one of the things that I choose to do is is that um and let me explain my reason behind this. I go very uh easy on a lot of people that I could stand up and and rake over the coals or criticize. Um and I'm primarily concerned uh throwing a monkey wrench in what's going on and um and really uh fighting uh the the the battles that and we get bogged down in a lot of infighting there's I could stand up here and I could list of uh double agents you know here and there people that been people that have been speakers here but I would consider that um counterproductive because you understand how a double agent is created let me explain this one of the double agents in World War II decoration uh that could be given by Germany and he was also given the highest possible by England. Both sides were very we are getting more positive information and and uh from these double agents than most people most people are couch potators uh couch potatoes sitting on the uh on on their chair watching professional wrestling and um if I have size it would be the couch potatoes it wouldn't be agent in order to to create a double agent have to they they they provide chicken okay chicken feed is a CIA term for meaning they give good information but it's not information of great consequence. If you're wanting to identify double agents one of the ways that you could do that is to analyze what is this person really saying is they say something but um I have backed off from from um trying to pull the tears from the wheat so to speak it the the scriptures know that Jesus said be very careful from the wheat because you may get some of the wheat due to the number of persons here to line up we're going to try to expedite these questions make them short simple you get one question and and we'll ask you to hold your comments down on the questions to parameters so we'll try to get through it is 10 fourteen sixteen few of us here know you as Victor Earl Schuf why the A Springmeyer in 1983 I legally changed my name for personal reasons and you'll find that I legally changed it and um there one of the the uh attacks that they have tried to make against is um they've come up with this they've tried to discredit the message that I have by trying to discredit me and they've said that I was CIA and that I was a Satanist a whole bunch of bogus stuff like this. And they they have tried to take this little kernel of truth which is that I legally changed and and um there were some reasons why I legally changed my name and they've tried to they've taken this little thing and they've they've uh it's been incredible how I've watched watched the lies develop from that um but uh you'll that uh if if you visit with me I I have driver's license will tax statements um passport so forth in my new name so I've so that I don't I don't tell people my previous name because well you have a common law right to change your name anytime you want so I as far as I'm concerned I just wanted to do you know about JR Bob Dobbs do you know about JR yeah I I'm I I'm not uh familiar with them but yeah I'm I've heard about him.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:48

Uh a lot of people are caught up in the promise keepers movement. Um what is the truth about about that?

SPEAKER_07 2:00:56

And uh also uh we're hearing a lot of stories about uh death camps and and foreign troops on our soil people are really uh concerned about that w what do what is the truth about that as you see it as you understand it that was too what was the first question again about promise keepers okay what the Illuminati is they look for banner issues that Christians cannot uh will will never oppose for instance a move of the Holy Evangelism 2000 men keeping their promises these are banner issues and behind that banner issue they can do anything they want because you can't criticize because it's a move of the Holy Spirit or they're going to evangelize the world but if you really go in and look at these banner at what's actually going on behind them there's a lot of dirty activity so anyway um these these banner campaigns they have a good front but um they're used for hidden agendas so that's you know after Promise Keepers there will be other uh probably be other banner issues that they will create and and are there concentration camps in the the question was are there concentration camps in 1991 when I came out with my B Wise Assertments book I uh I used some of my own findings as well as William Pabst's many years ago discovered Operation Garden plot which I got um I I entire occup um military document out all of the troops that are to to implement this and what they're to do and everything. This concentration camps has been um something that was conceived many many uh it's been in the planning and implementation stage for many years and yes there are definitely camps that are planned and um uh oh back in nineteen in nineteen ninety five that in Portland we've uh uh one of our companies Gunderson was one of eleven large companies uh started building rail cars to haul the concentration camps.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:29

I like what you say about can you hold your question for just one minute please um it's running a little bit late and I just want you to know because there are some people getting up to leave because of work considerations tomorrow morning that we have audio and video tapes available of this program. The audio tapes will be two of them for three dollars that's tonight and we have a limited number of video tapes available tonight but he will definitely have more next week. I just wanted you to know for the benefit of those having to leave now thank you.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:57

I like how the government creates the problems to solve problems. I was just wondering on you you said that they how many people actually are coming to this country how many of these handlers did the Illuminati have? And how many that are people that are really hardcore brainwashed. Do you have any kind of statistics on that or that are in society?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:22

Well I statistics on how many people were immigrating from these different countries I don't know you know uh figure like how many Russian programmers have come here um th I I could say this however many that they wanted to um there's there's no barrier for these for for these people to move across countries Carlos uh I realize that in the United States it be big destruction of the human race by intermarriages is there any significance of purity of the race um I'm s sorry uh pick up the question could that be I think you're talking about marriages uh any significance of interracial marriages to the there's a big significance of interracial marriages and I know that this will the big slides that people have but you have to understand how mind control works mind control operates off of steal inheritance and and who they are and their identity and their heritage from them.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:38

And so uh if somebody doesn't know where they've come from they don't know where they are and if they don't know where they are they don't know where they're going. So it's been very important to steal our heritage from us. And one of the ways of um confusing this is bringing in lots of different nationalities mixing them up interracial marriages so that people do not have a sense of identity and that's very important.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:07

I believe that if you look in the revelations you will see that in heaven all the national groups are represented as national groups you can still identify national groups God is not an internationalist he created the different nations as barriers to evil becoming as powerful as it's becoming these are natural barriers that were put in place so that um that evil would be evil would be inhibited and those are being removed yes a question about um the m the motion picture media um my grandfather worked uh with Cecil Because was called Mr Motion Picture the inventor of the motion picture industry back in nineteen thirteen uh he was a man he believed in God very much in Jesus I have is ever since de Mille died before well let's put it a few a few a few years before de Mille died my family uh was confronted being uh in in fashion designing and per personal tailoring for DeMille my family was on a spot they the or whatever you want to call them the evilness of the world wanted DeMille back down so they could have equal time and basically Mexico up to the United States and the TO up to here and and show it over the screen. Basically he wouldn't do DeMille uh said if you you know you can uh uh basically you can beat me you can you know you can take over the the uh media and of course nobody could beat DeMille he had all the records he invented this the industry so uh since DeMille died in 59 I was up there with my family I've seen the time come step by step minute by minute day by day to year by year to day and I do see it coming over Mexico. Is this Illuminati mind control I was sure that you were gonna say of of yes it relates to mind control.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:43

Understand this the dignity of a person and his self-value and his self-esteem is very important. We are free moral agents you are free moral agents but you have a low self-image you're much easier to control and uh by by taking us down to the level of animals by uh reducing our moral it there's a a whole plethora of different things that that um relates to in terms of it's very important that they they tear down the dignity of of the American person.

SPEAKER_10 2:09:24

This is our last question.

SPEAKER_09 2:09:26

Last two I'd like to thank you for your courage to stand up and expose this uh my question is have you ever heard of a man by the name of John David Oates? He's an Australian he's um uh taken people's speeches the presidents and other people in our government um recorded them then he has played the tape backwards and you'll get a totally different meaning on the tape and what they're really thinking and saying and it's quite uh startling and I'm wondering if there's any connection with this and and mind control or what what you know about it.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:26

Is incredible remember I told you that as I got to understand how the mind works that I found out that it's that it's absolutely mind boggling how to function. This is reverse speech and is going around and and giving classes they try so that they can understand it's not an easy thing. The the mind works in metaphors uh the the subconscious mind works in metaphors that's why dealing uh in therapy with people they have what's for the third ear where uh you tell stories and the mind will connect pictures so um a lot of things I could say in regards to that but it's nice that somebody's come along identified this particular thing. I happen to be a certified grapho analyst which is analyst and um when you write well when you do handwriting your subconscious mind is having to make many, many decisions very rapidly and so as a my handwriting analyst I work in reverse. Why did the mind make that decision? And you can incredible amount of things about a person from their handwriting. So a lot of ways to track what the subconscious mind is thinking. Yes.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:58

Yeah one last question. Where do they get these children uh these eighteen months brainwash and how long do they have 'em to do it and whose kids are they?

SPEAKER_07 2:12:08

Okay. Uh common question, especially by people that are skeptic, get the bodies. Actually, when you know the answer, the uh the the numbers to obtain uh uh are very easy. Credible network out there that's operating and in the volume two book, which unfortunately we sold out yesterday, we sold all in the volume two book I go into a number of places where they they go for sources for these children. Reason why I can't answer your question you know, is because there's a lot of different sources. But coming down here to California, um uh i you can't miss a lot of these rest stops at all of these missing children's um ph uh photos hanging up a lot of children that's being taken. Uh generally are used. Um during the programming, there's a lot of children that have to travel because uh they're expended to the children that are being programmed. Uh there are a lot of parents that are are pressured and manipulated or mind controlled into turning their children over. The Illuminati carry out this mind control on their own doing it for generations. And so what we have is is we have robots programming robots. This the world is entirely out of the hands of sane people. Well, thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:03

Thank you, Fritz.